Comments on: Speaker Placement Boundary Interference http://arqen.com Sound and gear for your dream studio. Meet the powerfully quiet Phantom DAW computer. Learn the DIY art of recording studio acoustics. Come check it out! Wed, 21 Dec 2022 22:54:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.38 By: Olcay Demirci http://arqen.com/acoustics-101/speaker-placement-boundary-interference/#comment-1512 Wed, 21 Dec 2022 22:54:00 +0000 http://arqen.com/?page_id=7525#comment-1512 In Genelec’s web site, they advice avoid 60 cm – 1.2 Metre and they say its good ≥ 1.1 meters ??? and in your article you advice: Avoid: 1-2.2 m Im really confused by this to controversial statement. Any help appreciated

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By: Sebastian K http://arqen.com/acoustics-101/speaker-placement-boundary-interference/#comment-1366 Fri, 12 Feb 2021 01:29:00 +0000 http://arqen.com/?page_id=7525#comment-1366 You wrote that SBIR can not be corrected by eq, because if you boost the notch it will also boost the interfering wave that’s returning from the rear wall after bouncing. But what if I lower everything else so that it matches the notch? After doing so, the decay time in the place where the notch used to be will still be shitty, but I will have my frequency response corrected in exchange for volume, is that correct, or am I missing something?

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By: Javi Ramallo http://arqen.com/acoustics-101/speaker-placement-boundary-interference/#comment-1318 Tue, 09 Jun 2020 11:54:00 +0000 http://arqen.com/?page_id=7525#comment-1318 Thanks Tim!

Amazing information here!

Was very very useful for me!!

Really thanks!

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By: Mike Lloyd http://arqen.com/acoustics-101/speaker-placement-boundary-interference/#comment-1291 Sun, 23 Feb 2020 03:46:00 +0000 http://arqen.com/?page_id=7525#comment-1291 What about rear ported speakers? Are you suggesting that rear ported speakers still be placed in, or as close to, the front wall?

Love your site BTW, astoundingly informative.

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By: davidrmoran http://arqen.com/acoustics-101/speaker-placement-boundary-interference/#comment-1278 Sat, 14 Dec 2019 18:59:00 +0000 http://arqen.com/?page_id=7525#comment-1278 Some clarifications.

Higher SBIR problems can be nicely addressed with staggered placement of the woofer, which is hinted at here but not explicitly explained with placement near one boundary. In other words, you can very much smooth the common satellite-type lower-midrange notch (in the octave below middle C — NOT the bass!) with placement 2′ x 3′ x 4′ or 5′ from the near corner. The worst case of course is identical distances from the near corner. This solution to the Allison effect, as it was long known well before SBIR, is effective. Otherwise, yes, it can indeed be partly EQed out (filled in), since this is a room-power notch (resulting from changed air pressure on the cone surface from the reflected impedances) is rather more location-invariant than not, unlike room resonances.

It is crucial furthermore to understand that this is NOT LF. Observe the power suckout graph above with the notch at around 130Hz. That’s the C below middle C. Go to a piano and play it and see if anyone would label that bass. It is common for the Allison effect to lie higher than that, as well.

It might also be useful to go more into the ear’s integration, how in domestic rooms there is no such thing as direct sound below a very high frequency (well above middle C). Just calculate the wavelengths, periods, and time in milliseconds for all of the combo sound to get to your integrating ear when seated a few feet from the speaker, and it should become clear. Keep this in mind when someone speaker of ‘direct’ sound at say 220Hz. How many cycles have occurred before it registers at your ear, which is an averaging detector that requires considerable time to make its determinations?

Finally, you want to distinguish in this analysis among (1) coherent reflection summing (LF, sub placement in corner, all good, maximally driving room resonances, w/ possible LF treatment a la Winer for audibly bad situations); (2) much higher (midrange and treble) summing where it does not matter and the ear does not care except when a tweeter is near a boundary and there results a nasty peak; and (3) this lower midrange Allison effect area in between, where the wavelengths are similar to the distances to the boundaries.

Studying the extensive Allison scientific writings on this physical phenomenon is enlightening for anyone placing or designing loudspeaker systems.

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By: Armand Vermeulen http://arqen.com/acoustics-101/speaker-placement-boundary-interference/#comment-1267 Sun, 13 Oct 2019 14:25:00 +0000 http://arqen.com/?page_id=7525#comment-1267 Very informative article! Thank you

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By: henry gomez http://arqen.com/acoustics-101/speaker-placement-boundary-interference/#comment-1240 Mon, 05 Aug 2019 08:33:00 +0000 http://arqen.com/?page_id=7525#comment-1240 Actually, start applying acoustic treatment as soon as you can. Your first priorities are to treat your first reflection points and place bass traps in as many corners as you can. And if you need well defined website for your business, connect with Website Design UK.
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By: Marco Stanzani http://arqen.com/acoustics-101/speaker-placement-boundary-interference/#comment-1202 Tue, 20 Nov 2018 10:25:00 +0000 http://arqen.com/?page_id=7525#comment-1202 Right! I am going to use TWO subwoofers for this. Neverthless I will place my speakers using the golden rule (see cardas site)

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By: Andrey Nagovitsyn http://arqen.com/acoustics-101/speaker-placement-boundary-interference/#comment-1199 Tue, 06 Nov 2018 21:41:00 +0000 http://arqen.com/?page_id=7525#comment-1199 Why not just mount sub woofer in a wall, this gives some freedom on placing satellites around the room. With mounted full range loudspeakers we have one and only one place of sweet spot.

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By: Jm http://arqen.com/acoustics-101/speaker-placement-boundary-interference/#comment-1145 Mon, 09 Apr 2018 21:37:00 +0000 http://arqen.com/?page_id=7525#comment-1145 Trying to figure this out for my studio, my “front wall” is wall-to-wall windows starting halfway up, with a light-blocking and some sound blocking motorized shade. My room is about 10″ wide x 12″ long x 8″ high, but it also has 2 load-bearing square concrete columns embedded into the side walls about 4-5 feet from the front wall. The problem is one of the columns sticks out about 6″, the other sticks out 10″. These columns make me want to center my setup between them, which would then make offset to the right instead of perfectly centered. Help?

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